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amredthelectorDay 07 - Least favorite episode of your favorite TV show
Justice League Unlimited, "Epilogue"
Okay, so it isn't really a Batman Beyond episode, but since it was meant to serve as an ending to the series, I'll count it as such.
And I hate it. Haaaaaate it. I've heard so many people say that they think it ties up the series and makes sense of it, and I just don't get that. 1) The series already had a great ending, both in its own series and in the movie. 2) The series ALREADY MADE SENSE, this just made it STUPID.
I hate that Terry became Bruce's son in this. As far as I'm concerned, that is not canon. It destroys Terry's character. The thing I loved about him was that he was nothing like Bruce. He wasn't like the Robins, either. A fuck this whole 'he was destined to be Batman' bullshit. That contradicts some of the greatest moments Terry's had, where he pointed out that he chose to be Batman, he stole the Batsuit on his own, he didn't wait for Bruce to adopt him like the Robins.
That episode ruined Terry. It will never be canon for me.
In other news, over the summer I've been working on a playlist for Villain Songs from musicals. There's just something about villain songs... they're often the grandest, most elaborate, and most fun numbers in any musical. So far, my list is over 2 hours long, and I'm still trying to find more songs for it. Unfortunately, some of my favorites are hard to come by (like Snake in the Grass from The Little Prince), but I'm still pretty pleased with what I have. I'm going to go ahead and put the list under the cut, so if you'd like, take a look. And if you have any suggestions, I'll take 'em!
Meet the Joker - Batman Beyond Soundtrack (instrumental)
Poor Unfortunate Souls - Little Mermaid
Hellfire - Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame
In the Dark of the Night - Anastasia
Be Prepared - Lion King
Shiver My Timbers - Muppet Treasure Island
Toxic Love - Furngully
What You Feel - Once More With Feeling (The Buffy Musical episode)
King Herod's Song - Jesus Christ Superstar
No More Mr. Nice Guy - The Swan Princess
Oogie Boogie's Song - Nightmare Before Christmas
Friends on the Other Side - The Princess and the Frog
The Hounds - Protomen Act II: The Father of Death
Sweet Transvestite - Rocky Horror Picture Show
Cell Block Tango - Chicago
(The Legend Of) Ms. Baltimore Crabs - Hairspray
Big and Loud (Part I) - Cats Don't Dance
To Dance Again - A Very Potter Musical
Gaston - Beauty and the Beast
Feed Me (Get It) - Little Shop of Horrors
A Little Priest - Sweeney Todd
Hello, Little Girl - Into the Woods
The Mob Song - Beauty and the Beast
This Jesus Must Die - Jesus Christ Superstar
Come Little Children - Hocus Pocus
As The World Falls Down - Labyrinth
Slipping - Dr. Horrible
Everything You Ever - Dr. Horrible
My Lullaby - Lion King 2
Big and Loud (Part II) - Cats Don't Dance
Playing With the Big Boys - The Prince of Egypt
Dentist! - Little Shop of Horrors
Epiphany - Sweeney Todd
Thankless Job - Repo! The Genetic Opera
In the Land of the Pig, the Butcher is King - Meatloaf (written for a never-made Batman Musical)
Brand New Day - Dr. Horrible
Planet Shmanet Janet - Rocky Horror Picture Show
Justice League Unlimited, "Epilogue"
Okay, so it isn't really a Batman Beyond episode, but since it was meant to serve as an ending to the series, I'll count it as such.
And I hate it. Haaaaaate it. I've heard so many people say that they think it ties up the series and makes sense of it, and I just don't get that. 1) The series already had a great ending, both in its own series and in the movie. 2) The series ALREADY MADE SENSE, this just made it STUPID.
I hate that Terry became Bruce's son in this. As far as I'm concerned, that is not canon. It destroys Terry's character. The thing I loved about him was that he was nothing like Bruce. He wasn't like the Robins, either. A fuck this whole 'he was destined to be Batman' bullshit. That contradicts some of the greatest moments Terry's had, where he pointed out that he chose to be Batman, he stole the Batsuit on his own, he didn't wait for Bruce to adopt him like the Robins.
That episode ruined Terry. It will never be canon for me.
In other news, over the summer I've been working on a playlist for Villain Songs from musicals. There's just something about villain songs... they're often the grandest, most elaborate, and most fun numbers in any musical. So far, my list is over 2 hours long, and I'm still trying to find more songs for it. Unfortunately, some of my favorites are hard to come by (like Snake in the Grass from The Little Prince), but I'm still pretty pleased with what I have. I'm going to go ahead and put the list under the cut, so if you'd like, take a look. And if you have any suggestions, I'll take 'em!
Meet the Joker - Batman Beyond Soundtrack (instrumental)
Poor Unfortunate Souls - Little Mermaid
Hellfire - Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame
In the Dark of the Night - Anastasia
Be Prepared - Lion King
Shiver My Timbers - Muppet Treasure Island
Toxic Love - Furngully
What You Feel - Once More With Feeling (The Buffy Musical episode)
King Herod's Song - Jesus Christ Superstar
No More Mr. Nice Guy - The Swan Princess
Oogie Boogie's Song - Nightmare Before Christmas
Friends on the Other Side - The Princess and the Frog
The Hounds - Protomen Act II: The Father of Death
Sweet Transvestite - Rocky Horror Picture Show
Cell Block Tango - Chicago
(The Legend Of) Ms. Baltimore Crabs - Hairspray
Big and Loud (Part I) - Cats Don't Dance
To Dance Again - A Very Potter Musical
Gaston - Beauty and the Beast
Feed Me (Get It) - Little Shop of Horrors
A Little Priest - Sweeney Todd
Hello, Little Girl - Into the Woods
The Mob Song - Beauty and the Beast
This Jesus Must Die - Jesus Christ Superstar
Come Little Children - Hocus Pocus
As The World Falls Down - Labyrinth
Slipping - Dr. Horrible
Everything You Ever - Dr. Horrible
My Lullaby - Lion King 2
Big and Loud (Part II) - Cats Don't Dance
Playing With the Big Boys - The Prince of Egypt
Dentist! - Little Shop of Horrors
Epiphany - Sweeney Todd
Thankless Job - Repo! The Genetic Opera
In the Land of the Pig, the Butcher is King - Meatloaf (written for a never-made Batman Musical)
Brand New Day - Dr. Horrible
Planet Shmanet Janet - Rocky Horror Picture Show
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Date: 2010-07-20 07:35 am (UTC)What boggles me is that so many Timm-verse fans (who can be INSANELY anal about continuity and plot holes) love Epilogue despite the fact that Waller's plan is stupid and doesn't make any logical sense.
I once spent a long time arguing with a friend about how I thought Epilogue ruined Return of the Joker. I argued that the entire freakin' point of the movie was that "Batman" wasn't just a mask and a name; it was about how a person used it. And that Terry, despite being very different than Bruce, had finally truly EARNED the right to take Bruce's place.
...Epilogue, on the other hand, says, "Terry would have been Batman anyway! It's ~destiny~ because he's been blessed with Bruce's godly genes!!".
I can't even remember the rebuttal he gave to explain why he thinks Epilogue is brilliant. I think I blocked it out. -_-